Jeff Tweedy interview (Hilarious World of Depression)

Jeff Tweedy interview (Hilarious World of Depression)


I’m Jeff Tweedy from the rock band Wilco,
and we are currently sitting in the Loft studio and rehearsal space that we’ve had for… I don’t know, 17 years or so? John Moe: I’ve read a lot about the migraines
that you used to get. When did those start? Jeff Tweedy: I don’t really remember when
they started. I think right around six years old or something
I started getting pretty serious headaches where I would vomit until I was dehydrated
and just kind of full-blown migraine experience. John Moe: When did depression start? Jeff Tweedy: Who knows? I didn’t really identify it until much later,
but I kind of recognized the patterns of it were existent for a long time. There’s a theory I have that I don’t know
if it’s borne out by any kind of scientific research, but I think that the depression
and anxiety has some connection to the migraines for me. Or maybe just the stress of those psychological
mood disorders would contribute to migraines, but in some ways, I think that migraines were
a way of making psychic pain visible to the people around me that weren’t able to see that there
was real psychic pain. I think that’s a problem everyone that
suffers from depression has, is that it doesn’t look real. Everybody gets sad and everybody has a certain
amount of depression, so people that don’t really experience it as a disorder tend to
think, “Well, why can’t you just not be sad?” Right? So, I think that throwing up 30 times in a
row and being obviously in enormous pain could’ve had some sort of connection early on that
I didn’t make until later. John Moe: So, you felt like your body was
converting all this psychic pain an actual… Jeff Tweedy: Something that would be nurtured,
as opposed to be being reacted to with, “I’ll give you something to cry about.” [Laughs]. John Moe: And then when did Uncle Tupelo begin
in earnest? Jeff Tweedy: When Jay’s brother went away
to join the military, I believe. John Moe: As that began to ramp up and gain
momentum, what was happening with your mental health now you were an adult and you were
a musician? You were doing the thing you like to do. Jeff Tweedy: I don’t think my mental health
was particularly great, but I think that I had started drinking, so there was some mal-adaption
that’s fairly common with diminishing returns, as is fairly common. John Moe: Yeah. Were you drinking just for fun or
were you trying to… for nerves? Or what? Jeff Tweedy: I think I just wanted to feel
normal, and I felt more normal when I drank. I’m definitely an alcoholic. And so, that’s like a,
“Where have you been my whole life?” I was also very, very conflicted by that because
I come from a family of alcoholics. And I have a lot of anxiety about that going into
it. John Moe: ‘Cause you thought that was in your
future? Jeff Tweedy: Like yeah, like, “I’m screwed.” You know? John Moe: Was it a family, as far as you know,
were they drinking to self-medicate? Were there mental things going on?
Jeff Tweedy: I think that’s pretty clear now. I always had a theory that my dad, he drank
his whole life and was always kind of determined that he was an alcoholic by everybody. And as I went through treatment and got better,
I started kind of questioning whether that was an accurate description because he didn’t
have the typical diminishing returns and the catastrophic consequences that come along
with advancing through the stages of alcoholism. He kept a job. He was completely reliable. He drank 12 beers a day, at least, and a case
on the weekends. But at some point he went through
some medical issues, and he stopped drinking, at like, 81 years old. And he started having panic attacks, but he
didn’t have any troubles not drinking. John Moe: So how is that different than your
experience with alcohol? You’re not 81. Jeff Tweedy: I didn’t go through treatment
to stop drinking, so it wasn’t a particularly– it was a similar experience. It seemed fairly easy to stop. The reason I say I’m an alcoholic is it’s
the easiest, it’s the easiest term and most accurate, to me. Like, it’s the same as saying I’m an addict. Yeah. JM: But you said your father was. You think he might not have been an alcoholic,
but you are? So what’s the difference? Jeff Tweedy: My dad never graduated to other
substances. John Moe: How long did that take you to graduate
to those? Jeff Tweedy: [Pauses.] I didn’t tend to intermingle them very much. So, I quit drinking when I was like 22 years
old. And then not long after that, I smoked pot
for a while, which isn’t– I still don’t think it’s that serious of a drug [laughs]. I think it should be taken seriously, but
I don’t– it’s not in the same category. Somewhere after pot stopped being something
I could do, because it increased my anxiety. This was right around the time my first son,
Spencer, was conceived and I found out I was going to be a father, it was really hard to
let go of control enough to enjoy being high. And anxiety seemed to really, really take
a big bite of enjoyment out of that. But not long after that, on the road I discovered
pills and those had the opposite effect. They had the illusion of being more in control
for me. I wasn’t very comfortable with oblivion. I wasn’t super comfortable with– even when
I drank, I liked being the guy who could drink a lot and not seem drunk at all. I was not the guy that got super, super drunk
and everybody had to take care of. John Moe: Were you trying to– you enjoyed
that because you were able to show that you had control? Jeff Tweedy: I just didn’t like losing control,
you know? But opioids were like this warm feeling of
wellbeing. And, I honestly, that’s probably the biggest drug of
choice or most– closest to my heart [laughs] in terms of what I thought was good for me. I honestly even thought it was good for me. Like why is this– how is this any different
than taking anti-depressants or something, you know? Like I had some really screwed up logic that
I’m fairly decent at debating. I actually convinced a psychiatrist to prescribe
me opioids at one point. John Moe: Wow, you’re good. Jeff Tweedy: Well, he was bad is probably
more accurate. But, the combination of I think I felt like, “This
is what other people feel like. I have energy, I’m not panicking. I feel good and clear and warm and I can concentrate.” That was my reaction to my first experiences
with opioids. John Moe: Had you been diagnosed with depression
at this point? Jeff Tweedy: Yeah. John Moe: When did that happen? Jeff Tweedy: I don’t really know. Probably the mid-90s, late-90s. John Moe: And what did you do about it then? What was the course of treatment? Jeff Tweedy: Some talk therapy, some medication,
and some benzodiazepines for the anxiety, which is a terrible idea. They’re prescribed for anxiety all the time,
I just think that’s a really diminishing return type of band-aid for that particular disorder. And, honestly, the guy that I was seeing for
the longest time in terms of having a therapist, somebody to talk to, I think was criminally
negligent. John Moe: How so? Jeff Tweedy: He would talk me out of taking
anti-depressants and tell me the opioids were OK. He’d say that, “The anti-depressants are capping
your energy, your creative energy…” John Moe: Jesus. Jeff Tweedy: “…But the opioids, I mean,
you enjoy them. You have a good time.” John Moe: Is this– are you talking about
Dr. Feelgood from the Mötley Crüe song? Was he your actual–? Jeff Tweedy: No, he wasn’t able to prescribe
anything. This guy was just, you know, like a social
worker like a lot– that’s this thing that scares me about the mental health profession. There’s so many different ways to just hang
a shingle out and start damaging people, you know? I think it’s really, really awful. I mean that guy had also had some delusions
of grandeur that he had a — at that time, in Chicago — I think he had some illusions
that he was dealing with a celebrity client, and that he was eventually going to be asked
to just come on the road. In fact, he asked my manager, actually told
my manager that that was the only way I was going to be OK is if he started coming on
the road with us. John Moe: That’s a red flag. Jeff Tweedy: Yeah… I mean but that is so– he was just smart
enough to recreate the dynamics in my life that were causing me my neurotic condition. John Moe: What do you mean? How was he re-creating it? Jeff Tweedy: Well, everybody has these relationships
in their life that are dysfunctional, and they contribute to… they’re impediments
to… to getting healthy. Say a relationship with your mother, blah
blah blah, you know, whatever. For somebody in that position, to see somebody
vulnerable, identify what those dynamics are and then recreate them so that you are dependent
upon them is, is evil, I think. And, to me, that’s what happened. John Moe: How did you get cleaned up? Like what, what–? Jeff Tweedy: Going to the hospital. I actually quit taking everything. My panic disorder worked in my favor, in this
regard. I realized there was something terrible happening
and I started panicking every time I put a pill in my mouth, I would panic that I’m gonna
die. And I would try and make myself vomit, you
know. It almost became impossible to take meds of
any kind, including anti-depressants and things that might’ve been helping me to some degree. So, I was able to do that. I was able to stop [clears throat] taking
pills, and about five weeks after that, my brain chemistry had crashed severely to the
point that I was panicking 24 hours a day. I was walking around the park; I had lost
35 pounds. And this guy I was seeing to supposedly help
me, this like, therapist, he made this suggestion that he was going to have to go on the road
with me because I was in this condition, and I had a moment of, “You’re just a fucking
total asshole. You’re sickening.” You know, just a clear eyed, clear vision
of who this guy was. I couldn’t drive because I was panicking too
much, and I made him take me home, and he sped off [laughs] after I got out of the car. And then my wife took me to the emergency
room and they did this two days in a row. They wouldn’t– they wouldn’t admit me. And then, the second day I went there, they
told me about a place in Chicago that has “dual diagnosis” treatment, which is they
treat your mental health issues along with your addiction issues. And my reaction to that was: “Why has no one
told me about this until just now? This is obviously– this makes so much sense! That’s obviously what’s been going on for
fucking ever. And yes, please, take me to there now.” John Moe: So it was the ER that referred you
there? Jeff Tweedy: Yes. John Moe: Wow. And then, how long were you there? Jeff Tweedy: A month. John Moe: Yeah. Jeff Tweedy: And then, you know a little bit
of time at a halfway house, to just kind of ease back into being a dad and husband. John Moe: Did you have to sort of ease back in to
playing music, too? Jeff Tweedy: A little bit. John Moe: Or were you playing the whole time? Jeff Tweedy: A little bit… I did have a guitar, at some point, toward
the end of my stay in the hospital and I think it– I had one when I went to the half-way
house, and I was playing it in the laundry room and this older black gentleman came up
to me and said, “You know, you’ve got something.” [Laughs.] He said, “You just lack confidence. You should get out there and play for people
and get some confidence because you got something.” And that was absolutely the best review I’ve
ever gotten in my life because it was completely unsolicited, no… as pure as it can get. John Moe: And a pretty good prescription for
what you needed to do next. Jeff Tweedy: Yeah, he had me pegged. Don’t have a lot of confidence. But… yeah and I developed a relationship
with the doctor who treated me in the hospital, who I still see, who still helps me maintain
my meds and be a functioning human being. John Moe: Uncle Tupelo ends, Jay quits the
band and you go in different directions. There have been some people fired from Wilco
over the years. Did what was happening within you, within
your mental health play a role in some of these relationships and friendships and partnerships
ending? Jeff Tweedy: I think that the– that Jay Bennett
leaving Wilco was — at least for me, personally — was a first step towards getting healthier. You know, and that’s… I don’t know if Jay… from what I know, sadly,
wasn’t able to get the help that he needed to, to readjust his life to a more healthy
lifestyle. But at the time he left, it was not a healthy
thing, and I was trying, you know, to distance myself from things that I was becoming aware
were not very good for me. And we offered Jay help getting to rehab,
getting himself together. He refused or declined at that time. He claimed to not have any problem, like a
lot of people. And the situation was untenable. The situation always gets cast as some sort
of me versus him issue. It was not. I mean, obviously, there was an issue between
me and him, but it was a band-wide decision, and a situation where the health of the band
was at stake, not just my relationship with Jay. John Moe: We won’t walk through everyone song
you’ve played for clues to depression or mental illness. Are there songs that you can think of that
were written about your struggles and your depression that, either written during some
throes of it or reflecting back on it, that we could look to? Jeff Tweedy: The record that was– the last
record that I made before I went into the hospital was “A Ghost Is Born.” And when I got out of the hospital, and we
started rehearsing again for– to go out and play that record, one of the things that struck
me at that time was the fact that I think a lot of that record was pretty hopeful. Like there was a part of– a healthier part
of me talking to the more unhealthy part of me. In other words, I felt good singing those
songs still. I didn’t feel like I had been misled by my
creativity into some sort of romanticism of my condition. It was actually, I think, maybe a clearer-eyed
version of looking at myself or my situation, my condition. So that’s something that I find across the
board when I look at songs I’ve written from any period, even, even one that sound really,
really, really sad. To me, I never feel like I can’t taste a certain
amount of hope in– and I sing ’em all. There’s really no period of songs from my
whole life of writing songs that I avoid. I play Uncle Tupelo songs on the road. There’s some that I just don’t like as much,
but there aren’t periods that I’ve have to quarantine, you know? John Moe: As toxic. Jeff Tweedy: Yeah. John Moe: Do you consider your depression now
behind you? Managed? With you every day? What’s the status of it? Jeff Tweedy: Managed. I don’t think it’s behind me. I expect to be confronted with challenges
in dealing with it for the rest of my life, and I’m OK with that. I think there are way worse things that can
happen to you in your life. And that was a pretty great revelation to
me at one point. It was like, “Being sad isn’t really the worst
thing that can happen to you. It’s like kind of a part of how life works.” I think people really get into trouble when
they think they get to choose their emotions, and you can stay in one emotion by choice.

Comments

(99 Comments)

  • Ruben Bachmann

    thanks for this honset interview!

  • Peter Krueger

    So many great takeaways from this interview — thank you for posting

  • Josh Hryciak

    Diminishing Return

  • Codie Odie

    Jeff Tweedy, you are one smart man who follows his heart. Your creativity somewhat saved you. We all thank you for that.

  • Casey Apgar

    Wow, Thank you!! One of my heroes…very inspired and… I just don't know what to say.

  • chris johns

    I basically suffer from almost the same exact stuff that you do Tweedy. I'm checking out this dual diagnosis treatment thing in Chicago online right now but there seems to be so many options available! Which one would you recommend? How does one choose?

    I've been on benzodiazepines for almost 6 years now…always looking to feel normal, drinker, all that shit. You feel normal now? I don't how I'll ever feel normal again, I'm almost forgetting what it felt like as a child…

    Anyways, nothing works anymore- booze, pills, (don't like pot cuz same anxiety issues). Try to meditate and go to AA and shit but something is missing, cuz I relapse at least once a week at the expense of my job, wife, and life. Jesus, don't cry.

  • Desiree Galeski

    Thanks for this interview. I am dealing with depression and love music. This video really helps me understand my own depression.

  • Daddy Ding

    Love you Jeff! Your the man.

  • Luke Dailing

    such an honest soul. Love you Jeff

  • worksupermodel

    What a great talk. My daughter and I listened together reflecting on her struggle with depression and she couldn’t agree more with you. Her best resolve has been to accept that maybe her perception of the world makes her a bit sad. Our world is kind of a sad place. It doesn’t mean that we can’t have happy times too. But the acceptance that she leans toward sad and there may never be a time where she doesn’t lean toward sad doesn’t mean there is something wrong with her. Accepting her feelings has allowed her to walk the earth a little more empowered. Better than than hiding away and fighting a losing battle trying to get happy the way everyone believes she “should” be.

  • Shan

    Good stuff, Tweedy! Maybe your best work yet.

  • Dots Grey

    Love Tweedy, love Wilco. For me, anxiety, depression and suicidal ambitions started to dissipate after I'd stop playing in a band. Which turned out to be a weird plot twist in my inner narrative. Thanks Jeff

  • Matthew Gaffney

    Really wonderful.

  • Jack M

    jeeeeeeefff

  • Cesar A. Reyes

    woah is 12 beers a day alcoholic status?

  • Corey Davis

    21:31 the end is so important to hear. Progress, not perfection.

    "being sad isn't really the worse thing that can happen to you, you know? It's kind of a part of how life works. I think people really get in to trouble when they think they get to choose their emotions and you can stay in one emotion by choice".

  • Jerry Илић

    Thank you Jeff

  • Carlos Lamkin

    This is fantastic! Thank you both for the honesty and the inspiration.

  • Barry Sullivan

    Must become abstinent of everything.Admit your powerless over alcohol n drugs. Must become brutally honest with yourself.Humble yourself by turning Ur will n life over to a Power Greater than urselve on a daily basis. Proud to be a brother of yours Jeff as I've suffered thru dual-diagnosis for 30 years.But the good Lord took me in 4 yrs.ago May and gave me my life back.l wouldn't give it up for anything.

  • REV! Muscle Cars

    I trust a man who has faced his dragons and can admit where he is burned. Humility, Honesty, and Candor- thank you for sharing your story, Jeff. Keep going, it gets better.

  • kenneth bishop

    Thank you Jeff for telling us your story. So much honesty.

  • Fart Knocker

    "He stopped drinking at 81 years old"…..why stop?

  • kenneth bishop

    Jeff you have always been a beacon of hope, especially in my worst depression. It's true, as I once heard Doug Stanhope say at a gig, if you're depressed, then probably you're just right. Sadness should not be shunned as an abnormal state of being, especially in this effed up world!

  • Barb Prindle

    thank you for sharing your story so honestly Jeff. blessings to you and your family. great job with the interview, Interview Guy, whoever you are (also, i'm from Minnesota too, and now googling what's on your T Shirt :p)

  • Cignus777

    As someone who has struggled with serious anxiety and signs of depression my whole life, this was encouraging. Mr. Tweedy, it's difficult, and it sucks, but I'll pray that you both find the Lord and you find peace

  • Heather Rudy

    Thank you for sharing.

  • Lewis Collard

    That was raw. Thank you Jeff and APM <3

  • Anodyne Forever

    Did not know Jeff had these demons. Very raw and honest interview. God bless.

  • gl meyer

    Killer, authentic, honest interview with real questions…if depression, anxiety and/or addiction has touched your life or anyone you love or care about, please watch this. 'Dual diagnosis' is a big thing to ponder here. Also…where he says 'Being sad isn't the worst thing a person can suffer from' and "you can't 'choose' to stay or be in one emotion all the time" is brilliantly spoken…

    It also doesn't hurt that I absolutely adore this spiritual being for so many real reasons aside from his musical talent. He is a truth seeking troubadour who croons from, often painful reality❤that has helped me understand, not only who and what I am and how I feel through his heartfelt music and words, but also those I love. He is a rare gentle gift to us all.

    Since I never knew what the hell I was/am doing with my sons…I have actually parented my 2 boys with some ideas he's presented throughout the years in hopes that their path will be less arduous due to their creative tender souls than mine is..His candor is his greatest gift….

    Thank you Mr. Tweedy. You are my creative inspiritation in so many meaningful ways…I enjoyed our 1 song we sang together…you are my muse…

  • elle studio

    Clear-eyed and articulate p.o.v. Thanks. Interviewer is also exceptionally skilled.

  • 1022rebelreddog

    one of the better songwriters today….

  • 1022rebelreddog

    rather hear about songs and guitars etc. not addiction…

  • Barry Hall

    Very good talk.

  • lennidog2000

    I posted this because it's the most right on and truthful expression of depression I have heard so far.

  • Dave Goodwin

    Ive suffered from migraines, anxiety, and depression since I was a young child as well. I've always had the same theory about the connection between them as well. Jeff you're awesome. Thank you for your transparency. You have always been such an inspiration to me.

  • Joel

    This is great. Thanks for doing this Jeff.

  • WolfieMusic70

    Those rugs really tie the room together.

  • Abby Rupert

    Nice job by the interviewer.

  • Chip Fla

    11:00 About here Jeff sounds like he was being treated by Dr. Landy.

  • Tyler Durden

    There was nothing hilarious in that entire interview….

  • A.P.B !

    Oh man…migraine headaches and depression led to a long heroin and xanax addiction for me. 8 years sober!

  • Johnny Paul

    16:15 "You know, you got something." He does. Coming from a guy that has been inspired for yrs. by a guy based on his musicianship. The 1st time I saw Tweedy live was without Wilco in Eugene OR., & he mentioned his addiction to a fan that kept yelling some shit out about whiskey. He (Tweedy) was so clear minded and funny. The perfect mix between musician and comedian. To all musician or prospective artists of any kind, u don't need the drugs. It might be fun, but as the Verve said the "drugs dont work."

  • the winner

    Take vitamin B2 every day and it will prevent migraines. Opioid pills have side effect of causing migraines, duh. Shrinks just call people bad names and tell everyone who walks in their office that they have brain problems.

  • Roger L

    This interview really bookends the Wilco film "I am Try To Break Your Heart".  It sheds light on a lot of the conflict and uncertainty that the band and Jeff were going through.

    Glad Jeff is managing his conditions.  Now being about the same age as Jeff I'd like to say get some weight off don't want to loose him to heart disease, type 2 diabetes, etc…  And I hope he quit smoking too.

  • Mark Holter

    I really appreciate this interview.

  • Tigger the cat

    Thanks for sharing.
    I am struggling with panic attacks and depression at the moment. The doctor has offered me Valium but i don't want to become addicted to them and I do not want antidepressants as they make me like a zombie.
    I am scared to sleep as i keep waking up unable to breathe and then have a full blown panic attack.
    I am trying to find a good cbd strain to see if it works.
    I cant cope with too much thc as it makes me paranoid and can trigger a panic attack.
    I am glad to see you are coping.
    Respect.

  • Flowerdoodle2

    Great interview! I can relate! It's good he's so honest and revealing. So important for his fans to see

  • A Tree

    They are way too close to each other

  • Jeff Stasi

    Kind of silly Jeff…

  • Peter Jolles

    Great interview.

  • Matt H

    Sort of an uncomfortable interview – I'm not sure if they were speaking before the taping and I'm not very aware of this series, but it seemed more like a counseling session than an interview. Definitely some interesting perspective and information about mental health, though.

  • Take a look in The mirror

    Anyone think the thumbnail was Jonathan davis?

  • Jeremy Charbonneau

    I really appreciate you speaking out about this. As a musician who suffers from bi-polar 2 disorder, I've felt the need to address it in the music I write and it's been a helpful catharsis.

  • MattieCooper

    Wait….I love Jeff, but many alcoholics will never "graduate" to other harder drugs….but many alcoholics will drink themselves to the limit and some will only ever experience the need for 12 beers a day and they're still alcoholics…I'm confused about his confusion. Oh well.

  • cgraugaard

    So many great insights. Thank you

  • Charles Snyder

    this helped

  • Thomas Rainbow

    Being this honest helps everyone everywhere including yourself. Thanks so much for this.

  • davshavu

    Thank You for the maturity and lack of pretense presented in this interview. A serious condition that millions of people suffer from daily. Plus, "Kudos" on the title of this clip! Made my day. Keep on keeping on Jeff, your art is uniquely American, like listening to a friend who understands my view on life.

  • Chris Greacen

    "you've got something" love that moment. I appreciate Jeff's honesty & transparency here- great interview.

  • Troy Müller

    Why are almost all my favourite artists and writers clinically depressed?

  • imperor76

    First time I've seen Tweedy interviewed in years. He's really packed on the lbs.

  • mickeyhynes

    Thanks for being so open, Jeff. It's some small comfort to know your heroes are going through similar things to yourself. We all need to talk more, especially men.

  • J.B. Walken

    this is an enjoyable watch for people with depression and wilco fans, not in that order . me not a big fan of meds but jeff seems happy and well balanced

  • Linda Diane

    some people with migraines have had them completely resolved with Ayahuasca

  • daanje1062

    Way to go Jeff Tweedy. Best wishes for continued recovery.

  • Jim Jordon

    Like a great blues song, this made me feel somewhat better about the world.

  • Cozy Cottage Home

    I identify with everything Jeff said… Jeff's nose is red, he bloated – he's still fighting everything obviously…. Hope he makes it.

  • Cozy Cottage Home

    NONE of these psychiatric drugs are a cure…. Often makes shit worse.

  • Cozy Cottage Home

    Man… I love this guy. I hope people are keeping a CLOSE eye on him. Jeff looks to be bipolar and WILL swing back to better than normal soon….

  • Jonathan Hardy

    I watched this because I am a fan of his songwriting. That said, his personal life and his depression is his business and he is brave to share his story with the world. I learned a little about Jeff and that was cool. What is better is that I learned quite a bit about how one man has handled his illness. Sharing this kind of information helps us all deal with our own issues. It adds to the body of information about depression. Hopefully we can all draw from each others experience.

  • Steve Regnier

    Now I really want to be in his band… going on 5 years no drinks.

  • Scott Rose

    Thank you Jeff! This interview was so helpful to me on a whole bunch of levels. Thanks so much ; )

  • motomuso

    Does this interviewer have more work available? He is good.

  • J-man 80

    One thing that helped me break my opiate addiction was kratom . I'm just a poor boy from Appalachia in Southern Ohio and my job doesn't offer insurance . Rehabs cost SOOOO much and a lot of times it doesn't work . If you are struggling and you are broke and need help here is what helped me . On your last dose order some kratom from a reputable vendor . Me personally , I buy from Happy Hippo (happyhippoherbals.com) .
    1. Buy 4oz of Happy Hippo 1 , on down the road you can always change vendors
    2. Lower your sugar intake and caffeine intake for the first week , drink water
    3 . Eat vegetables and meats and eggs . Eat fruits for snacks
    4. Exercise , go for walks , masturbate , try to be active
    5. You'll prolly be bed ridden till your kratom arrives so when it arrives take about 3-4 grams to test and see how you react . If you feel your withdrawals ease then stick with that or add a gram till felt desired dose . Do #1-4 (list above) after you take the kratom . Drink plenty of water with kratom to avoid constipation and dehydration . Lil cannabis at night before bed can help .
    Change your life completely !! Don't do the same routines once you feel better . Get away from the people who you associate with the drugs . When you eat healthy and exercise it will rebuild your brain . You just can't stop doing opiates and sit around and eat junk . A lot of people glorify that broke , drug addicted "rock star" life style but its all a BULLSHIT story . 9/10 people who have their shit together are the ones buying their records while the artist is dead , in the ground , voice is silenced . I like my rock stars old and wise . As a society we need to glorify rock stars who have survived and are alive . I wish you the best and I know some will comment on this and disagree , that's fine . I'm just trying to write out what helped me and if this don't help please keep fighting cause you belong in this world , the world needs YOU!!!

  • Jon Tate

    This is healing honesty both for the listener and, most encouragingly, for the teller. Thanks to Jeff Tweedy for the courage to sit down and expose the backstage self for the benefit of anyone who can identify with what he is describing. It means so much to me.

  • Danielle Mummery

    Jeff Tweedy – I like you and your music bunches. And I was really enjoying listening to your interview until you threw social workers under the bus as any profession in the mental health field who can hang up a shingle and really damage people. Go back and listen to it again – I did. I am not "just, like, a social worker." I am a skilled, trained Licensed Clinical Social Worker with 20 years of experience. I take my profession seriously, as do the majority of my colleagues. I get that you were speaking off the cuff, but your choice of words was offensive. I dig my job and I do it well.

  • Andre Bouchard

    Everyone should watch this interview.

  • Augustine Aquinas

    Holy smokes! Tweedy sure put on a lot of weight.

  • Andreas Rys

    Thank you very much, Jeff!

  • RMTmusic1

    Depression will fuck you up…

  • Fobbsy

    FUCK DEPRESSION UP THE AYASS!

  • Lisa Colbert

    "…good and clear and warm…and I can concentrate." Yup . Does make you wonder why such a seeming panacea would exist that offered these effects and then turn on you, like pure evil .

  • aryzner

    This is an incredible interview and Jeff's willingness to share his problems and experiences trying to treat them so honestly and articulately is beautiful. I've never had the addiction issues but when he describes going through your day in a constant state of panic, I can totally relate with. His thoughts on the matter are very comforting to hear. Thank you for this.

  • Novanglian M

    Bless you Jeff for speaking this openly about this.

  • Seth Pomeroy

    Weird… I suffered from intense migraines as a child and now suffer from depression. Interesting theory, definitely worth looking in to.

  • Linda Shields

    Thank you for this testimony Jeff!

  • Ajdizzle4rizzle

    this isnt funny

  • JR Murphy

    YOU MURDERER – NEW ZEALAND GOVT USING YOUR BS TO IGNORE TERRORISED ABUSE VICTIMS AND MENTALLY ILL BEING DENIED PROFESSIONAL HEALTH CARE – WTF – laugh about what you murderer – you disgusting bigot how dare you tell people to laugh about being persecuted, oppressed, having nowhere safe to live, no services continually discriminated against and impoverisehd to the point of suicide.

    Its people like you Jeff who drive women and children to suicide with your idiotic ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You maggots are like ex-smokers – just cause you did OK you pathetic moron doesn't mean others are.  Rich people ewwwwww karma coming to you filthy greedy maggots!

  • Ann Mestres

    So sorry to hear about his bad experience in therapy. I have been clean and sober for 23 years and just recently graduated from SLU with my BSSW. I understand from my experience and education that trauma i.e., the migraines or possible toxic stress from living in the turmoil of an alcoholic family can create a "reactive" autonomic nervous system. Anywho-social workers are supposed to follow a code of ethics but there are some sick people out there in this world. This is why it is necessary to be rigorously honest within ourselves and others as alcoholic/addicts. I had a psych try to prescribe me benzo's but I knew I couldn't use an addictive substance to take care of my emotions. There are other ways to regulate the nervous system but it takes work. Yoga is amazing. If anyone is interested in the concept of "reactivity" there is a book by Bessel Van Der Kolk M.D. "The Body Keeps The Score" which is a game changer.

  • Michaël Paradjian

    Wise man!!! 22:00 Really deep thougts

  • SolamenteVees

    I just finished Jeff's book; he delves deeper into everything mentioned here. A great read and a seemingly-genuine, likable human. Oh, he knows how to write songs too.

  • Mike Price

    Drinking to feel normal… I know exactly what he means by that.

  • Andrea Picchi

    I love the loyalty of this conversation.

    I think it's what lacks most to to the human being.

    These words are so precious…

  • Wouter de Heus

    If I were Jeff Tweedy I'm not sure I'd want to spill the beans on all my emotional problems and addictions. It's just none of their business!

  • Pat Mcdonagh

    Mmm.so he was drunk everyday until he was eighty .and ur nit sure if he was alcoholic.mmm.i mean this in a nice way. ur honesty is great but your problem i guess was the same as mine and everyone who seeks oblivion no matter what they take.fear

  • Johan Volman

    Read his book. It's great.

  • Jason Goodell

    Jeff's candor on mental health and addiction is brave and refreshing. His experience is in seeking treatment informing and important to hear for everyone. Thank you Jeff for telling your story.

  • Edwidge Whatsosons

    Go to Vegetariian foods.

  • chris johns

    Woah, his psychiatrist tried to do the same exact thing Brian Wilson's psychiatrist did! Fucking weird! How much does this happen with "celebrity psychiatrists"???

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