TL;DR – Mental Health in Korea

TL;DR – Mental Health in Korea

Karina Akira Reiny asks: What’s Korea’s take on mental illness? I wanted to know if it’s a stigma, how
people are treated and is it a taboo? Well the first thing we should say is
that we’re not experts in this field whatsoever we could only talk about our personal
experiences on the matter As people who are teachers in Korea and as people who have friends in
Korea who have dealt with this topic before So first we’re gonna talk about our
experience as teachers in Korea And for those of you that don’t know,
we were actually teachers back in Canada So we had a lot of training to learn how to
identify students in our class that might be struggling with something
for example, ADHD or autism We had specific courses to teach us about this So when we came to Korea, we
were actually really surprised to find that we had students in our classrooms
that were definitely going undiagnosed Students with ADHD that were just
being called troublemakers who can’t concentrate and who bother everyone in class and I would take aside my
coworkers and be like, No, I’m pretty sure that this student
is suffering from ADHD They’ve got all the signs and
they’re a good kid and they’re just like ‘No, no, no,
they’re a troublemaker with bad grades’ ‘They’re bad kids’ I remember personally I once
had a student who– when I had a face to face test with them– I tried looking him in his eyes, but
his eyes would go all over the place like this He couldn’t actually have eye contact, His eyes were physically shaking like this and then afterwards when I spoke
with the teacher about it, I said, ‘Do you know anything about this student?
Is there any way that we can help him?’ ‘Has he been diagnosed with anything whatsoever?’ And the teacher’s like, ‘What are you
talking about? He’s fine.’ ‘Nah, he’s just a little bit distracted that’s all.’ I had two students in my class over
three years that were autistic one which is a really severe case
who you couldn’t actually touch her she would freak out and she could barely
speak Korean, let alone English and she was being put in class and all the other students were kinda
treating her like a wangda Like she was kinda like this outcast student and she was really struggling But there was no assistance offered
to her whatsoever They just threw her in there be like,
‘Go ahead, fend for yourself’ Yeah. Interestingly, when I talked
to my teachers about it, they said that the reason she’s at our school
is because she was treated much better by the students at
our school who just ignore her, while when she was in public school she
was actually beat up, people threw rocks at her Like that’s friggin awful!! Okay? And what bothered us at teachers
in both of our schools was that There were no guidance counselors
for any of these students there were no special ed courses Pretty much there was nothing for
these students whatsoever. No help at all And I’m not even just talking about
students that are struggling from something, just students who are struggling
from life in general Considering that there’s a really high
suicide rate for teenagers in Korea, they really need an output,
someone they can talk to that’s a safety zone A guidance counselor I think is
a critical, CRITICAL job I’m really surprised that it’s not
actually implemented in Korean schools yet If I could make one wish about a
big change in Korean high schools, it would be the addition of a guidance
counselor that can help students deal with stress And that plea comes from someone
who has experience with counselors I definitely saw counselors in
university when I was battling with depression and if it wasn’t for those
counselors in university I’d really not be the same place that I am today So not only is it really difficult for students to be
treated or diagnosed in school, It also carries on into adult life where it’s very difficult to get
proper treatment as well Now the thing is that it does exist in Korea
There are psychologists and psychiatrists and there are counselors But it’s not really as embraced and
as accepted as it’s become in North America If you were to say to your friend ‘I’m really depressed. I feel really down
I’m having suicidal thoughts.’ People would be like
‘You need to see a counselor’ ‘We need to help you find someone to talk to.’ That would be the normal response But in Korea, people don’t really
talk that much about it If you wanted to go to talk
to someone about your issues, it actually goes down on your medical record and then if you go to get
a job at a big company, they will look into your medical records Isn’t that absurd? If you want to work for Samsung
or LG or whatnot, it’s not just like you give a cover
letter and your resume in an interview, they check your medical record And if it winds up showing that
you have any kind of history of mental health, you will not get the job Yeah because why would the pick
you over someone else who looks like they don’t have any problems
but might have tons of problems But just the idea that these companies
can look at your medical health is just absurd to me! I know So it’s something that I think
needs to be worked on because I think everybody at one point
in their life goes through a struggle They go into depression or
they’re stressed out– or they have problems You don’t think that it wouldn’t
benefit them to see a counselor And FYI, in a similar vein,
when you apply for a job in Korea, they actually ask you for a picture So a lot of foreigners that apply
for jobs in Korea are like, ‘Oh my god, this is racism,
you can’t ask for my picture’ but everyone in Korea does it, it’s
not just a foreign thing and they photoshop it as well so like– and they make glamour shots You know if I was to apply for a job,
I’m just gonna give them a picture of David Beckham and then when they see me they’d be like, ‘Yeah, that’s David Beckham’ They hold up the picture and they pull it down
and they’re like, ‘Oh, still the same.’ And when it comes to our personal experience, we have had friends who have had
difficulties with this as well Foreign friends and Korean friends Our foreign friends have had a real
difficult time finding counselors here in Korea
that speak English but this was a couple years ago,
I’m not sure if things have changed since then I hope that it’s changed I’m pretty sure the best place they were
able to find was on a Korean university who apparently they have some psychologists
or counselors that you can talk to but they didn’t speak English so– That’s not very helpful when it’s kind of
crucial to speak and communicate That’s a major key -And we can’t expect them to speak English
-Yeah, of course because it’s not like English is the
first language here but he was having difficulty finding
someone who speaks his language My Korean friend– I was really upset about it
because they opened up to me after getting to know them for three years and they couldn’t even tell their employer
where they were going because they were going to get
medication for their depression but they couldn’t mention that to their employer because their employer wouldn’t want
them to work anymore So they had to make up all these excuses as to
where they were going and it was really stressful And it was also the issue that the
boss is really badgering your friend like ‘Where you going? Tell me where you’re going.
Why won’t you tell me where you’re going?’ and your friend would actually stand
her ground against it The last thing I wanted to say is that
Suzy was telling me about how in the morning there are a lot of
shows now that deal with like counseling So like fighting couples going
into counseling offices or people who can’t deal with
their out of control kid So I feel like there is kind of
a push coming on the acceptance of counselors
being an important part of Korean life -It’s still not fully there but it’s–
-Still taboo right? It’s still a little bit taboo,
but it’s developing We’re gonna talk a lot more
about this in the blog post so click on the link here if you want to see
more of our thoughts on the topic So that’s it for this week’s TL;DR if you have a question for next TL;DR,
leave your question in the comments section below or check out questions that have
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for more TL;DRs where we talk about stuff about Korea I’m pretty sure we’re just gonna
end this with the blooper reel of you trying to pronounce the
person’s name at the beginning I don’t want you to It’s Karina Akini– Akira. I know Akira Karina– -Karina Akiri Reiny asks
-Akira! Karina Akira– Akira! Like the anime



  • Al Dozier

    My goodness! They treat mental health worst in Korea. Go figure. I hope that changes for them though cause ignoring it won't make it go away.

  • sparkle sparkles

    My friend's dad used to have a very well paid job but one night he slipped on a soap and hit his head on the bathroom floor. He became partially paralyzed, he kept flicking his bead backwards uncontrollably. His mum divorced with him and moved out of his home a couple of years later. His dad kept coming back to my school looking for his son. It's pretty sad. The mum took my friend and ran away to start a new life because his dad wasn't able to support the family anymore.

  • MsWannabeGamer Ⓥ

    That sounds pretty terrifying. I went to multiple psychiatrists and psychologists throughout my youth and teen years. You're telling me that I wouldn't have been able to find a job in Korea?

  • Chloe Vu

    A recent drama called It's Okay It's Love features mental illness and psychiatry… I recommend it ^~^

  • Whitney Chakara

    I saw a therapist for a spout of Depression in 2011 about four months. I am thinking that it will disqualify me for the talk program what do you think? It's really disturbing to me because other than that I a an above excellent candidate. 🙁


    and this is why it's convenient not to seek "help" unless extremely necessary (like having paranoid schizophrenia)

  • Kyun Lee

    na, i think in america if we said we were depressed first they will tell me to suck it up and man up.  not to sure about the concealer thing.

  • monsterkukie

    Idk about other places in America, but where I live, if you say you have depression or you cut, then people look down on you and say you're an attention seeker.

  • yumi mango

    You both sound like motor mouth know it alls. It's like static. Yeah you are a negative image of Western ethnocentrism , nothing more.

  • Sophia Digirolamo

    I have autism, and hearing about how people with Autism or ADHA don't get help really scares me. I was diagnosed really late and so I was not on meds for a really long time and I lost a lot of friends because of my behavior. I was diagnosed in 2011 which means I was diagnosed when I was 10 which is REALLY late for an Autism diagnosis. And once we knew what was wrong with me everything started to clear up for me, I went to a new school which I am still at and is the best school I have ever been to and is have friends! Which I amazing for me because for the last few years of elementary school I was the biggest subject to bullying at my school. So hearing about how what happened to me is happening and not being treated really makes me sad because for a long time before I was diagnosed I really wanted to kill my self. But now that I am not bullied any more and I have friends and I have an amazing school I am so much better now. I really hope this will change.

  • jess jess

    that is messed up korea

  • TiggyLiz

    This sounds very similar to how mental health is viewed and treated in Japan. There are very gradual improvements happening, but it's still so far off from optimal. 

    On a personal note, I have OCD, and the mere notion of being denied a job that I'm totally qualified for because I take medication or have seen a therapist in the past is completely absurd to me.

    Just think of all the wonderful and capable people these businesses are turning away because of some archaic and ignorant mindset about mental illness!

  • itadakimasu101

    That's so messed up! As a person suffering from ongoing depression and ADD my heart goes out to all people who need to be diagnosed, need a counsler, or are bullied because of mental illness. I really hope that Korea and other asian countries will realize that they are harming their own people and country by ignoring this problem. My prayers are with them and sending positive vibes to those who need them! <3

  • axion

    over here there special schools for kids with autism ADHD and kids with a learning dissabilities. and it always beter o learn you got autism or ADHD at a younger age so as you get older you will learn to deal with it more. I myself am 24 years old and have known that i got autism for 19 years and dont struggle as much with it as kids that are 16 and have known this for 1 or 2 years 

  • Natasha

    i've been on stimulant medication for ADHD for 9 years now (which has greatly benefited me and enabled me to reach my full potential in work and school). i'm super crazy passionate about teaching ESL. people say i do an awesome job at explaining everything and communicating with others. but in the future i either want to work in either Korea or Japan for at least a year… looks like that probably won't be happening. :/ 

  • Offensive Username

    EYK goes all sob story about students with mental illnesses, but they don't care about exposing drunk people in their videos, who might be drowning their untreated illness into a substance addiction.

  • Scuro1000

    Korea does sound an awful lot like italy…. If you could see how hard school life has been for my little brother you'd cry.

  • Lyco02Lyco14

    Your dog and cat brought me to your channel. I love that you guys are so open with your experiences. I can't count how many times I LOLD at your vids. I love your humor. I love your fashion sense. I love that you love anime. 😀 AND SO… I love you guys. <3 end of story. HAPPY ENDING! <3 from the Philippines.

  • Lexie Yippyyippyyooyoo

    i live in england and we dont have guidance counsellors

  • K-Lynn

    I would really love an updated version of this video discussing weather things have gotten better/are more accepted now than before!

  • Abby Nelson

    what brought me to watch your channel is because you guys do KMM and you guys talk about the music videos alot and do interviews with some of them and it helps me understand the music video alot and i love spudgy and meemers they are adorable and i would like to say that u guys make KMM really funny bc u guys talk about your own opinions and i have a question. How long did it take u guys to actually learn to speak Korean?

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  • 김다은

    Correction: people THINK company look at their medical record but in real it's not true and also looking at people's personal medical record is illegal . expect very few job like some sort of soldier. So PLEASE PEOPLE IF U SICK GO TO HOSPITAL. PLEASE (I am sorry about my pooreng skill)

  • Mitsuki Horenake

    I guess that explains what I saw in that one Korean drama. I think it was called It's Okay, That's Love.

  • Fumihiro

    in america we have like 7+ counselors, counselors for every grade level and also counselors depending on the first letter of your last name but that is just at my current school in groveport OH. at other schools I've went to there were only like one or two in columbus OH

  • Jenny Ta

    I live in Canada close to the city Windsor which is close to where EYK used to live. At our school, we have life skilled students and they're put in a class with each other with teachers that help them. Also the students in my school love them and treat them well because we know about their suffering. Some of the students are absolutely amazing and talented in other ways. I have a student name Connor and he is very passionate about singing and he always sings for us at talent shows or pep rallys. We all really like him and the other students too 🙂 Hopefully Korea can soon help the students in their country as well

  • Jocelyn K

    Since you said you got help with depression in Canada, were the places you worked at in korea able to see that?

  • L'chaim - Analysis in Arts and Disability

    How do you take care of your own mental health while in Korea?

  • Meggy McKechnie

    Martina looks gorgeous!

  • hey heiraelle

    Asian countries are like that I guess. My teacher and parents just tell me to shrug it off, they tell me its just a phase or something you're going through.

    Even my friends who are going through something are so scared of getting the stigma from people they force themselves to shrug it off.

    The school counselor herself doesn't care. I once accompanied my friend to the counselor since she had like a meltdown. It was a terrible day. The counselor screamed at her for causing so much commotion during assembly and then she like threaten her that if she didn't get better her parents would be called her grades would be affected. Like wth! I mean seriously counselors don't help at all.

  • missysvanity1

    How did martina get a job in korea if she had depression. The first thing they ask on an application is if you've ever recieved mental health treatment. If so , you won't get hired

  • SigmaMorrigan

    This is a fascinating piece for me, as someone who is working in the healthcare industry. I am so used to the strict regulations regarding the sharing of medical information that it had not occurred to me that a country like Korea might not have its own version of HIPAA. And the idea that seeking mental health services might prevent you from getting a job is pretty scary. I hope that Korea eventually develops more resources for people dealing with MH issues.

  • Tryti

    I know this is not the main topic for this video, but I looked through the comments and I just wanna say something.
    ADHD is not an obstruction. It is a challenge. People with ADHD can learn just as much as normal people, it´s just that the society, at least norwegian society, thinks that ADHD means someone is stupid. I really hate it when people say "no, I can´t, I have ADHD". It´s not that you can´t do it, it´s just that you need a little more time to learn and a little more help than other kids. You´re just lazy and hiding behind ADHD, or you try and fail too much and have given up, or the attitude towards your ADHD is too much affected by the people surrounding you who constantly tell you that you can´t learn this and that and so on.

  • Human Being

    The kid that moved his eyes side to side was him or her not knowing what eye to look at so they go back and forth I do the same sometimes

  • batman awesome

    damn Martina is freakin hot! she should wear somethin like this all the time! i mean ,yeah i get that she's married to Simon but man. i tap that. i would.i freakin would. js.

  • Ngoc-Tran Le

    I'd love to know if this has improved at all since you guys talked about it! I remember after the Sewol Ferry incident, the news mentioned that the school most affected would be bringing in counselors for students to talk about. Is it more accepted now especially with tragedies such as the ferry incident? 

  • sazji

    The story about the autistic girl is really heartbreaking.

  • no name found

    korea does nothing about mental health related problems so society can outcast sick/unstable ppl and drive them to suicide. thats how they get rid of the bad genes. same happens in nature.
    thats horrible from our viewpoint but no one said our viewpoint is the right one.
    hope this makes sense.

  • Sarah Lynn Sovilla

    This is one of the reasons I am moving to Korea to start a suicide prevention outreach.  Cause my heart goes out to all those struggling with depression or suicidal thoughts. Been there and had that pain in my life.

    BTW love you two and enjoy your channel.

  • Ricardo Llamas

    I didn't know Teachers in Canada were "trained" to detect those types of symptoms.
    I dont believe that's a thing in Mexico, but if you are a "troublemaker" you'll be ask to se a psychiatrist (my brother was ask to in primary school) (it didn't help at all).
    AND the picture in resumes are also a thing here! I refuse to send a photo with my CV because there are a lot of companies that are known for hiring only "attractive" people and barely take the cv into consideration.
    Some friends have told me that they have had jobs because their physical appearance or where they live, and are completely unqualified to actually do the job.

  • Darriel Louie Catungal

    Teachers here in the Philippines study mental health in their curriculum. It is a prerequisite in here. Maybe Korea could do a massive overhaul of their educational system to help students with mental disabilities.

  • KatreadsM

    at was so horrible im crying. poor everyone.

  • Eva Nguyen

    for the past year almost every popular drama focus on mental health. I'd like to take that as a sign that mental health is getting more attention and people will get the help they deserve

  • PyroTurk

    Learning about this made me really sad. I went through a lot of trouble for awhile as a child getting a proper diagnosis for my mental health issues and my learning disabilities. It just breaks my heart to learn that their kids were going to the same exact thing that I did and to hear their teachers call them bad kids when it's not their fault.

    I was considering becoming a teacher in South Korea but now I don't think I could do it I couldn't handle the emotional stress of seeing that and not being able to help.

  • YoungBeezy

    what does tldr mean?

  • Holley M

    This breaks my heart. I live in America, and I worked as a teacher aide, working with elementary school children who have special needs like autism. I also have ADHD, so I know how hard it is to try to study and pay attention and conform when the is so much energy inside that needs to get out via any means possible, and information doesn't always process so it doesn't seem like I'm listening. Those poor students. I really hope some kind of reform takes place in Korean schools, those students deserve better.

  • Justin

    Where I live in America, it's the exact opposite. EVERYTHING is a mental disorder and everyone is a counselor. Example, where I live, if you say something like "Meh, I wish my skin tone was a bit darker", or anything little like that, EVERYONE freaks out, you get therapy, you see 50 counselors, you get special help

  • Kate Mulhearn

    I would really like to become a counsellor and move to south Korea. Hopefully by then the stigma will be lifted a little. I know from personal experience how important it is to have help available to you and I'd love to give support to students in South Korea. Fingers crossed my dream comes true.

  • b juardo

    It's sad that Korean culture repudiates the existence of mental illness. Korean culture is still struggling to find itself in some respects.

  • Little Tangerine

    People in Asia (and Russia) are too comfortable with coping. Can't handle life? Just cope with it. Can't handle the stress? Having anxiety attacks? Other kids bullying you? Just cope with it! Makes me want to slap the adults real hard sometimes.

  • Korea4Me

    I worked in a hagwon and I had exactly the same response as you when I would ask about a child or suggest that a child had some kind of emotional or behaviour issue. And, oh boy, there were quite a few. Some worse than others.

  • 陈嘉鸿

    Why haven't I watched this earlier? Why is there 66 dislikes?

  • willow yang

    This reminds me when I watched Hello Counselor and a girl (she was in her mid 20s i think) kept on imagining that her Snoopy dolls could talk to her and things like that. Instead of feeling sympathy for her, the crowd just laughed at her! It just really annoyed me to see that the ppl just put her off as a weirdo

  • Elaine Lat

    My son would throw awful tantrums when he was in pre-school age so I had him enrolled in a SPED school where he was diagnosed with ADD. It helped him tremendously as he is now constantly in the honor roll and is learning taekwondo. I always heard about SKorea having a high suicide rate so now I'm not surprised why. Kids should be well guided there.

  • Ashlea Faulkner

    This goes hand in hand with this week's TL;DR on suicide. I wish the push you mentioned in this video happens soon!!!

  • Stewie Griffin

    are they realyl ignorant?
    go back to college and take a health course

    if the girl doesnt like to be touched she didnt get a lot of affection in her younger years therefore she is an avoidant girl

    understand that special ed in the states are worst
    people that can learn at a regular rate will be behind in every ways

  • kcanter54

    This is so heart breaking! No one should feel that way. I want to teach in Seoul in a few years and I would like to let my students know that they can always talk to me. I don't know if talking to kids about their problems in South Korea is accepted (for teachers) but I would like to try and help them.

  • cromag1973

    This is two people taking their experience in Canada and trying to figure out why Korean aren't like we are. Different countries equals different ways of thinking about everything. That being said, I do like most of their videos.

  • I'm a fat cunt for Mark

    I came here because G-DRAGON.

  • Brianne Kiso

    Re-watching – your hair is sooooo stinking unicorn cute here martina!

  • Brianne Kiso

    I just realized I didn't even comment on this topic and I feel superficial and a little sad ….


    however, I will say someone battling with BPD, I can say the stigma of invisible illness is still a problem here in America. I hope soon that mental illness protection laws will be enforced and society will work towards change, and accept the very large elephant in the room of mental disorders that are very real and need to be understood, researched, and processed.

  • モーングミアット

    I have ADHD but it isn't extreme it's usually just me unable to keep my hand or foot still, one second I might be playing with a pencil then the next I'm doing weird shapes with my hands.

  • De wey

    I think that asians dont know about mental health (based on my own experiences also), but I hope someone will do something about it :/

  • KI RAN

    i love your channel!!! things make so sense!!


    must be difficult knowing those kids needed help – it's like ignore the problem, it will disappear. both of you quite awesome!

  • Death Of Eden

    I've had this issue with teaching art. I've had a lot of students that clearly have something wrong with them and, in those cases, its the parents that refuse help for their kids.

  • LadySephora

    I honestly thought if I buried myself in work or something, that it would distract me enough to make the problem go away. It doesn't. My depression and anxiety made everything so much worst, I couldn't concentrate on anything and I just hated waking up everyday. When I finally got help, I stopped hating myself. Life isn't all the sucky. Sure there are bad days, but there are good days as well.

    Getting external help is so important and the stigma that you just have to "brush it off" has got to go.

  • Aki H

    Thanks for the info, I suspected it´s going to be like you said. Where I come it´s kind of similar to be honest, unless you got great support at home a lot of the times you won´t get much help from people around you. It´s kind of bad at schools, we don´t have any councelors either, only some teachers who double as one if they explicitly SEE some problem, and if you are not close with your homeroom teacher you are pretty much on your own. I had some really bad experiences with these teacher/councelors so I feel for the korean students, especialy as they are under SO much pressure.

  • Yeny De Varona Matamoros

    Since I have Bipolar Disorder I can't work there?

  • Nick !!

    Man, the stories from your schools are so sad and messed up. I can't imagine it happened but I hope hope HOPE those kids got the help they needed.

  • TheicMoggy

    this is so sad. 🙁

  • Shadowsong

    This is so fucked up, especially that the students are offered no 'safe places' in schools and freetime, and that companies check up to see your medical history – even if you were just talking to a physiactrist to find out if you have anything and it endrd up that you have no mental illness… 🙁
    Can someone tell me has this changed in the past two and a half years (since this video was posted)? Or are things still the same way?

  • Jo v. Z.

    I have a question. You mentioned that you had a history with depression but a couple of minutes after that it is mentioned that it's nearly impossible to get a job with that on your health record. How did you get your teaching job? Did you hide it, and if so how? I've had depression from when I was 11 'till I was 16, how big of a problem will that be if I want to apply for a job?

  • Stephanie Mowry

    Side note Martina ur eyeshadow game on fleek

  • Awkward Small Person

    Tbh I clicked cuz I saw GDragon for the pic thing

  • Naomi Kwon

    I wish you guys were my teachers

  • Lili Castillo

    This was a really good video! Thank you

  • Its Nick!

    wow you had to use g dragon for the thumbnail?

  • its_laura

    Interesting. If I was in Korea I might of been bullied for having a disability – epilepsy. So easy to get into depression if you're disabled (I think – I guess I'm not a "happy virus") blahhh… My medical history is LONG!

  • Adrianna Long

    please like this so they can see it!!!!

    Hi Simon and Martina, can you do videos on mental health, health care, and suicide in japan as well? Thank you!

  • RooTurboMoth

    I was watching this and I couldn't figure out what was missing… Martina's arms are bare! No tattoos! It took me forever to notice. lol

  • 홍은파

    I'm Korean girls high school student, 2nd gade.
    I feel the same way to watch the video. I think that Korean students endeavor to work matters to the advantage of best memorize man. I feel so gloomy.

  • John von Shepard

    All of Asia are like this.

  • Shannon T

    Martina you look absolutely beautiful in this! You're always beautiful!

  • Talyn has time

    America isn't the best with mental illness, but at least we mostly train our teachers to catch what parents fail to see. Koreans seem to have nothing in comparison. How much more productive and happier would people be in Korea if they had just a smidgen of the resources we provide our kids in schools, like Special ED/IED?

    Oh, another thing. I'm an adult now so I can't do so without being prosecuted as one, but if I saw someone physically hurt another kid and bully/harass them for their mental illness/disability I'd drop-kick them. I've been in Special Ed for the majority of my school career and while I wouldn't say I was buddy-buddy with all the other kids in the program or even made fun of or bullied for being different, I know that kids can be cruel as fuck about things they should know and understand better. Unfortunately, kids in Korea seem to not understand because everyone is mum about mental illness.

  • 21minute

    I'm rewatching this after watching Introverted Boss. Also, this is kind of out of topic but I have depression and I'm really surprised that there's no available therapist here. The closest I can find is outside the city. 😰

  • krazzysu

    I hate narrowminded people. Needless to say I am never going to Korea. Agh.

  • 한국 내셔널 리 즘이 영원히! 일본 파시즘을 씨 발!

    Why are there less mass shootings in Korea then, in America?

  • iKatherinex1

    I think not only Korea but most people in Asia face these sort of problems. Which is why, for me as a fellow asian here really admire American people sometimes because you guys have these kind of support and love.

    I don't know well if I have ever been into depression before or maybe I have, because when I was 15. I remember being so stress all of a sudden, and anxiety coming in, I became anxious and felt fear for no particular reason. Probably cause at that moment everything in my life went downhill, I didn't know if I was happy or not and if my friends were really friends or am I just being used. So I started to overthink, and the saddest part was when I was coping through of all these questions by myself. I had no one to talk to, I couldn't even tell my family. I tried to, but they didn't even gave advice or anything. The guidance counselors in my school aren't at all that helpful, we students usually go to them to discuss about our future college/university. Nobody really looks for them for special guidance, and one of the main reasons is that, most of us don't want our problems being shared everywhere. It's like the guidance teachers spread every information out. And sometimes we students just want to have a private talk. And if the information is spread out, students usually take this information to start judging them or basically make fun of them too. It's terrible, I know. Cause students in my school aren't really taught to care about others if they are going through any depression or anxiety or any other mental health issues.

    Even if students are mentally unhealthy and they try to tell the teachers. Most teachers would shrug it off and be like, "Oh you will be fine. Probably lack of sleep?" Like, seriously. It was hell during my high school days, sure they were good memories but they were also very very bad memories. I was so glad after I graduated from that high school. And now I am trying to cope with myself and seeking happiness or meaning in life, I never ever thought of suicide before and never will. And even if this sounds silly, the closest friends I have are my online game friends that live like an ocean away from me but they know me way more than my real life friends. I guess Asians just don't really have deep conversations with friends or families. It's really sad, it's like we have to carry of these problems ourselves. But I am glad that I made it through, and it has also motivated me to become a wise grandma in the future and tell young children my stories. And also give them some good and healthy guidance. Because what I went through, shouldn't be handled alone.

  • Bianca Portillo

    what happening is a shocking amount of ableism. in public and private schools in america there are always classes for special education students with trained faculty that help these kids through their schools. there's guidance counseling there for you for either school or personal reasons. there's peer mediator groups available. im not saying that American culture or life is so open to mentally ill people, but there have been movements and acceptance that are significant. there's more awareness and less shame. if anything this makes me want to study abroad to korea even more to talk to people and just suggest change.

  • lafemmefidele

    Believe it or not , American employers are very similar in their ways concerning the hiring and firing of employees who face depression, and other emotional disorders………

  • Jonathan Campbell

    It's so heartbreaking and sad what happened to Jonghyun, I hope South Korea is helping more people with mental health problems.

  • KeiAr

    Still relevant in 2017. RIP Kim Jonghyun

  • AnimeIsMyLife

    I have severe anxiety and I'm 13 (today's my birthday) so I'm trying to get out more so I'm going to see a movie (ready player one in IMAX 3d) and I haven't been to school in 11 months because of my anxiety so that causes depression and then it causes suicidal thoughts and then Taht causes pain (physical pain) so I'm in a lot of pain all the time so yeah sorry for this. This got to serious so here's a smile😀

  • Ching G

    Wait do companies in the usa look into your health/mental health history? ??!!!!???! Like, WHAT! freedom is a fantasy.

  • YamiAlex224

    I just got out of the hospital for mental health issues today and tomorrow I am seeing my therapist

  • Charles Dean

    This is grade A bullshit these guys must have seen one or two students in the situation and painting everyone across the board… You were teachers in Canada wait isn't that the place famous for the wrong teaching of emotions rather than knowledge?? Bill C16 is a prime example where fascist speech-control is just rolled over people and they are calling freedom of speech as hate speech smh.

  • R0ly P0lly

    I am really worried about this pressure in Korea. Looking just on medical card not meaning you will know that somebody don't have some other problems. Sometimes people can be physically healthy, but have mental problems. When I was at school (I live in Kazakhstan) we always had a psychologist for children in each school I was learning. It is very important for everybody to have support and help in mental health. When you have a big depression or big stress, but people judge you and pressure you because of them this is awfull. I remember my friend visited school psychologist, because she had big problems with her parents and also was stressed because of 6 exams. I don't understand teachers that see, that his student have problems, but says "Nah, I don't care. He's okay", eventhough other people see this problems too.
    In my case I had an epilepsy for 6 years. It was so hard for me because of this, I remember how I was crying at high school, because other people looked at me like to a crazy person, when I said about my disease. But my mom and dad everyday talked to me and I had an opportunity to tell why I am so depressed or say what worries me.

  • Micaela 미카엘라

    I can't speak on the rest of Korea but living in a southern village at least here the students are diagnosed and given an aid (a teacher trained to help them). My elementary school constantly has anti-bullying and self-love seminars. Just giving this update if to let you know it's improving (at least in my village).

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